At the recent Holberg Debate titled “Why I am Still a Communist”, Zizek discussed the life and work of Vladimir Lenin, concluding that Lenin was not really a Marxist in the strictest definition of the term.
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more like zizek is not a real ( simbolic, imaginary, w/e) marxist
"I'm a pessimist here"
He admitted he did not read Lenin's book. It is obvious he did not lie about that. Dear Zizek, read State and Revolution 5th chapter to see that Lenin was a real Marxist.
Leon Trotsky should be in Smash Bros.
so funny that he lies at the start claiming to have never read Lenin yet he delivers a whole dissertation on Lenin's political philosophy
NOOOOOO NOOOOOO
Lenin wasn’t a real Marxist. Rather, he was an imaginary Marxist.
You don't need to be a Communist or even a Socialist to recognise the positives as well as the evils in Lenin's rule. Not least, his New Economic Policy established pragmatic market socialism which eventually succeeded in Deng's #China
We need subtitles for this
wuh?
Lenin: Envisions Marxism in his own way
Other leftists: "Hey thats not how it should b-"
USSR: "REVISIONIST SCUM!"
What does Zizek mean at the start when he says 'I have never edited collected works of Lenin. I never read them'. I have two Zizeks books on Lenin with selected writing of Lenin and fore-after word from Zizek….Did he just forget or something?
This fucked up Illiterate punk who can not wash himself and not able to put a sentence together will speak about LENIN
We forget always how big and wild is Russia. Lenin saw opportunitie to steer the change that was already going. Is not revolution that destroyed carism it was industrial progres, and of course world war. Lenin was ingenious to step in this mess and to steer it towards some realisation. If this didn't happen, in WW2 Russia would be defeated. Even one could say that Hitler is result of western fear of soviet communism. Actually its result of volatile capitalistic economy, and reaction to it in western countries. So weakened Russia from ww1 would not have much chance to stand against Hitler, and world would be much different if that would happen. So in a way Lenin was last stance for liberating World from imperialism, and liberties of working man. Forgetting this is bad. And Staljin too. Yes it was totalitarian state. But still held some universal principles of human rights, it was not based on supremacy, which is big difference.
You should never tell to a right winger that. Not because you want to be dishonest but because they are dishonest. They are just sitting there waiting for you to say it, and they won’t hear any of the subtlety and nuance.
Ever notice that when it comes to marxism and capitalism, no one is ever 'real'. And, no system is ever 'real'. Nothing is totally capitalist or market oriented, and nothing is ultimately socially owned and produced. Incentives matters, institutions matter, and the nature of power and interactions matter.
Lenin was not a marxist. Reagan was not a capitalist. Venezuela isn't socialism. China is closer to capitalist than communist.
At this rate, I doubt even Marx is Marxist.
it makes me angry when people know nothing about lenin except state and revolution and then they assume he governed with the same ideas in power when in reality he was a hypocrite calling yourself a marxist leninist is staining marxism with failure and it associates you more with the actions of the USSR then it does to the ideas in state and revolution. The term Marxist lenism was coined by stalin and is mainly about being pro USSR and the ideas of vanguard party and the other ideas are secondary
Zizek is a provocator, he wants you to think, not to agree with him. And that's a pretty marxist thing to do.
Can someone tell me what he said? I thought I was following along, he was saying something about returning to zero(My understanding is Marx said we need to completely deconstruct society, an upending of all social norms and structures to create the communist utopia), then concluded Lenin wasn't a marxist.
Zizek is a dishonest anti-communist.
Marxism is not socialism….most socialists don’t want violence, they want a hybrid approach. Quit playing both sides on the middle
'Lenin wasn't a real Marxist'. What. The. Actual. Hell. Why are you trying to implement Elitism in a classless ideology. You hypocrite. I can't believe you are doing this. If anything YOU are not a real Marxist by trying to implement Elitism. Marx would be ashamed.
Are you high? Are you delusional?
True, but who was?
"Feudalism->Capitalism->Socialism" Not necessarily.
Gtfoh yeah lenin isn’t a Marxist but this guy that hasn’t even read lenin and just sniffs all day thinks he’s the Marxist
he wasnt a real marxist because he actually believed in freedom and tried to give power directly to the people, not seizing it for himself while promisint the poeple
What the fuck
How many time do we need until people realize they are making the same jokes about his tics all the time? At least add something new or original, it stopped being funny many years ago.
It's funny how this person thinks 20th Marxism was a total failure, while we know that Soviet Union kicked the Nazi's butts, and helped liberate many Asian colonies, which was good. It also showed that the workers can really seize power, and also planned economy is possible (just not too effective yet).
Watching this three minute video so I can say "yeah I'm pretty familiar with the works of Marx and Lenin" like a fukcing idiot
Stalin > Zizek
Tough, since Marx said he wasn't a Marxist. He wouldn't have said real, or actual though, having read Hegel.
In my opinion, you gotta view this as how the Greeks view the Trojan wars; ancient history you learn lessons from without moralizing.
We need more or less an entropic kind of economy where accumulation and growth is not needed to develop and so on and so on.
Just a little economy lessons from entropic behavior of animals and species.
Lenin completely abandoned his positions made in "The state and revolution".
What? Ive never heard that before.
it's funny how they put the template of him touching his nose just to make the video more interesting
Misleading title…
Seriously…
That was not what he said.
"Marxist" is a very broad term, usually it just means agreeing with the very basic marxist ideas, you are not less of a marxist because you don't follow every fucking the old man wrote 150 years ago lol
Ok, so the logic of the dialectical argument: The rot was there from the beginning, negated by where we must concentrate our attention to is Lenin´s materialism as it were: the opening that allowed for a number of things. The fact that Marx´s analysis concentrates on capital and should help in have a sense of how not to imitate what is found within capitalists relations of production. So, he was not a Stalinist. The rot was not there from the get-go. Yeah, it is a typical Lacanian analyst way to present an argument, but when done in places such as this it gives way too much to the reactionaries. It teaches the wrong lesson "if you deposit your trust upon the exploiter, and play the game you can address their unconscious negative-hallucination style, and thereby reconstituting the relations of exploitation at the level of the academy, and what is possible at the level of cultural exchanges" There is everything to lose (when all has been lost to the capitalist exploiter) in masking oneself. In pretending that surveillance capitalism does not exist and that we are the safest when we deposit our faith in the capitalist with our lives with every daily decision we make. Those are gigantic ideological losess in the Marxists sense; we do not know, but we are doing it.